oh my god the Thailand crime scene photos have honestly scarred me for life. They were then recorded at 12.55am leaving, stopping in a convenience store for a toasted sandwich, before walking back to their bungalow. Luke Miller 2016; Dunno if this is what your looking for but emmet till. At the time of the murders last Monday morning, ten boats were lying offshore. VideoRecord numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. "Our family have been further traumatised by reports that there are numerous unnecessary and senseless photographs circulating across the internet. VideoAt the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Covid origin likely China lab incident - FBI chief, Blackpink lead top stars back on the road in Asia, Exploring the rigging claims in Nigeria's elections, 'Wales is in England' gaffe sparks TikToker's trip, Ukraine war casts shadow over India's G20 ambitions, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. Elise Dallemagne 2017; David Miller & Hannah Witheridge murdered on Thailand Island, Re: David Miller & Hannah Witheridge murdered on Thai Island, http://www.bestgore.com/murder/british- -raped-05/, http://www.bestgore.com/murder/british- -raped-01/, http://www.nationmultimedia.com/nationa 43997.html, http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news es-4402767, http://www.mizzima.com/opinion/intervie to-his-son, Epstein's island: dubbed by locals as Pedophile Island and Orgy Island. (Pics), South Africans turn to Phnom Penh private investigator Declan Miller to get home. [25] There were no known eyewitnesses to the murders. The country's prime minister, who had been phoning the national police chief daily for updates on the investigation, said "this should not have happened at all, as it will affect Thailand in the eyes of the international community". The DNA analysis in the case, which was not subject to independent oversight or verification, was provided to the court as a one-page summary with four supporting pages, some of it handwritten with amendments. The trial provided an obvious example of Scientific Fraud being used to convict two scapegoats. It was just straight up sped that killed her. An inquest into the death of Miss Witheridge which was held in Norwich in February 2016 heard how her family described her as 'a fun, vibrant and beautiful young woman'. The Koh Tao murders involved the death of two British tourists in Thailand in 2014. 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Miller, 24, likely was killed with a blood-stained hoe found about 50 . Police said that DNA semen samples taken from Hannahs body were from two men, both Asian. They had been bludgeoned to death. Defence lawyers had asked for the samples to be independently verified but have now been told there is nothing left of them to re-test. Hannah died shortly before she was due to start the second year of a speech and language masters degree at the University of Essex. The court heard he set up a fake Twitter profile in Hannah's name which Laura described as 'cruel, completely inaccurate and callous.'. Barcroft David William Miller and Hanna Victoria Witheridge They were arrested and tried and identified by Till's uncle. We won't comment on the trial process. Lawyers for Phyo and Lin also claimed that forensic evidence used to convict them was contaminated and should be thrown out. Supposedly these are the first crime scene photos ever taken. . He was found hiding on the boat later on 2 October. A police officer told the trial of the severe injuries Miss Witheridge suffered and evidence she had been raped. Police and court systems were hacked or taken offline in the following days, and a stash of personal information obtained from the court's servers was posted publicly. Ben Ellery In Koh Tao, Thailand For Mail On Sunday To think that the scum who tortured and murdered a child got off and were able to brag about it later is just unbelievable. Their semi-naked bodies were discovered on the beach near rocks only 100 yards from the scene of the party. The evidence in the form of this Unendorsed Report would have been ruled as inadmissible in US courts and other Western courts. [48], The guilty verdict resulted in widespread protests in Myanmar. Read about our approach to external linking. An English human rights activist by the name of Andy Hall asked me to put him in touch with the Melbourne forensic expert, Jane Taupin which I did. Video, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, Prince Andrew offered Frogmore Cottage - reports, Ed Sheeran says wife developed tumour in pregnancy, Man survives 31 days in jungle by eating worms, China and Belarus call for peace in Ukraine, Bieber cancels remaining Justice world tour dates, Eli Lilly caps monthly insulin costs in US at $35, Kobe Bryant widow wins $29m settlement from LA, Ruling party wins Nigeria's presidential election. Very gruesome, theres one photo of his parents looking at him in the coffin and I really cant imagine what they mustve felt knowing theyd lost their son, he was murdered for nothing, and the horrible thing they were looking at was him. The investigation of the Witheridge and Miller slayings was widely criticized as the crime scene was not properly secured, and questions were also raised about subsequent DNA testing. [31] They focused on foreign nationals, with a spokesperson for the police claiming "Thais wouldn't do this". 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No one is immune.'. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. On 15 September, the bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found on Sairee Beach on the island of Koh Tao, between 4 and 5am, a few hours after their deaths. These illegal workers often reside with friends on the island, making it difficult to identify them. I click the link and it just gives me the wow such empty message. 2023 BBC. The reasons for her admission to hospital have not been disclosed. [61], On July 10, the court ordered the DNA to be retested. In December 2015, the pair were convicted of the murder and sentenced to death. Miss Witheridge of Hemsby near Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, was raped before she and Mr Miller from Jersey were battered to death with a hoe on a beach on the island of Koh Tao on September 15, 2014. Thailand's prime minister today apologised for suggesting tourists in bikinis made themselves more vulnerable - comments which provoked outrage around the world. Oh Yes, this one is gruesome . We are aware of the Katherine case and are checking out the possibility that something similar could have happened, he said. The father of murdered British backpacker Hannah Witheridge has wept as graphic photos of her body lying on a Thai beach were shown in court. A lot of expats have both lived and worked in Cambodia and Thailand, and this area is a place to discuss all aspects of life in Thailand and what's going on there. I went in blind when it first was releasedhad nightmares for days afterward. I dont know if the killers are still on the island. All rights reserved. Thai police efforts are blasted a 'joke' by residents as officials admit they are looking for 'multiple' suspects but do not know how many. [1] After initially failing to find a match to one of the migrant workers, the police focused their attention on Western tourists related to the victims. [14][22] The police moved the bodies to prevent them being swept up in the rising tide. I was forced to look at these photos for a DUI class when I was 14 because I was caught smoking weed. So sad though! Yoshie Sazawa (Sharlyn) 2004; Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun were quickly arrested and later sentenced to death in 2015, a verdict that was upheld by the appeal court in 2017. VideoAt the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Covid origin likely China lab incident - FBI chief, Blackpink lead top stars back on the road in Asia, Exploring the rigging claims in Nigeria's elections, 'Wales is in England' gaffe sparks TikToker's trip, Ukraine war casts shadow over India's G20 ambitions, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. [76], The International Commission of Jurists said "the defense must be afforded adequate time and facilities to explore whether the alleged destruction of evidence in this case was appropriate and unavoidable, and to test the prosecution case overall." In recent days there has been widespread speculation in Thailand that police have arrested the wrong men. Police have, however, agreed to hand over the garden hoe which was the murder weapon, along with a shoe and a plastic bag. by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:08 am, Post They said in a family statement: 'We confirm that our beautiful girl Laura passed away on Monday, September 16. [42][43] Early police reports said Miller's mobile phone was also found in Zaw Lin's home,[44][45] although the media had previously reported the phone was handed to police by a friend of the victim. The police investigation and criminal trial were widely criticised by international media, human rights organisations, and legal experts. We earn a commission for products purchased through some links in this article. Here are the names of some of the other outsiders who died on Koh Tao: Ian Jacobs 2000; He was last night accused of smearing a murdered British backpacker to protect his countrys tourism industry. geez why did montriwat in his old days sprint in his knickers through town, without shoes, at 4am of the murder night ? The court has now been told that vital DNA evidence cannot be retested. Both victims had been hit several times on the head; Witheridge had been raped, and Miller had been drowned. Their bodies were found at 6am. Students Hannah and David had attended a beach party before slipping away together at around 1am on Monday. , updated The prosecution says a DNA match between samples found on Miss Witheridge's body and the two defendants is central to its case. "The past three weeks have been unimaginably difficult and there are no words that can adequately describe the heartache and despair that our family is experiencing. This could technically be counted as a crime scene as she was DUI but the aftermath of Nikki Catsouras (Porsche girl) crash is engrained on my brain forever. Images of a migrant worker spotted later on the same CCTV tape are circulated, with police describing the man as a person of interest. Rishi Sunak is urgently reviewing his private exchanges with Matt Hancock after bombshell leak of ex-Health 'Drinks cold in fridge at DH!' What they did was fairly run of the mill for the Jim Crow South. US firms waiting in the wings read to pump 'billions Parents' fury as schools STILL won't tell them if they are closed tomorrow as teacher strikes continue. Laura revealed previously how her family had been 'drop-kicked into the pits of hell itself' when Hannah was murdered. Measuring 21 square kilometres (8sqmi) in area, it is the smallest of three popular tourist islands in the Gulf of Thailand. VideoRecord numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The police were under pressure to produce results quickly, which affected how they conducted their investigation. The discovery of the bodies last September sparked a major police investigation and intense local and international pressure to find those responsible. I'm asking if they wear bikinis in Thailand, will they be safe? PLEASE read up on the case first before looking for the leaked photos. [85][15][86] Prayut said that British and Burmese government representatives were "limited to observation" and had to "respect our processes". Police Commissioner General Somyot Poompanmoung said: We still dont know who did it and the killers are still on the loose. She made sure everyone on the nation had a chance to see what had happened to her son. [31][65] Jane Taupin, an Australian forensic scientist brought in by the defence, claimed that the timeline of DNA extraction was dubious; a rapid analysis of DNA samples had happened in less than 12 hours,[34] which she said was unusual because "extracting DNA from mixed samples was difficult and time-consuming". [36] Footage near the crime scene also showed one of the three men running into a shortcut. [11][19] Several other suspects were also named, amid pressure to produce results, a new one every other day. 81 castielsbitch 5 yr. ago That's so strange, because honestly the body was the first thing I spotted. However, at that time I was already aware of other tourist deaths on the island. The relevant standard in this case was ISO 17025. Abandoned blue sleeping bag, tents and several wooden shelters are found in woodland close to where police Don't just stick to the Malbec! Following criticism for the way the case has been handled, police are now working with detectives from Scotland Yard. Police say it could be of a witness to the double murder, a suspect or of Miss Witheridge herself. At 7.47pm David and his friend Chris Ware were filmed walking towards the bar. [29][30] The police initially speculated about who the culprit might be, alleging various individuals of perpetrating the crime without clear evidence. The lawyers have also said the accused men were tortured and coerced into making confessions they later retracted. Edit: ah, I didnt realise you said crime scene photos, these were photos taken at the funeral. Pathologists and legal experts criticised the police for mishandling the evidence, allowing contamination of the crime scene and failing to use experts to collect forensic evidence. Video, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. I stumbled across these once a few years ago and I really wish I hadn't seen them. A British male, thought to have known the two, was named as a person of interested and hunted by police after allegedly fleeing the island on an early ferry for Bangkok. You are the British Consulate in Thailand. By Yikes. 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Jeffrey Epstein's island is becoming a tourist attraction in the Caribbean here's what the Wonder if anyone here can help. But they have another dark side to them. In 2017, Belgian Elise Dallemagne was found dead in the jungle of Koh Tao in what police said was suicide by hanging - though her family rejected that explanation. Two years after her sister was murdered, Laura wrote a Facebook postwarning people not to travel to Thailand claiming Westerners are hated in the country. They were arrested, confessed and given life sentences. [38] Police entered the home the next day; only one of the men, Zaw Lin, was present. [83] A 2016 study said the case, which it described as a litmus test of Thailand's justice system, "seriously damaged the image of Thailand and of its forces of law and order on the global level". Evidence shown in Alex Murdaugh's trial for murder shows the Colleton County property where the Murdaughs lived, at the Colleton County Courthouse in Walterboro, S.C. on Thursday, Feb. 2, 2023. The two men deny murdering Miss Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk, and David Miller, 24, from Jersey. Later, police released CCTV footage which they claimed showed the students walking hand-in-hand down a street. Miss Witheridge's family said "senseless" photos of the crime scene had added to their agony. We'll be dignified for David. [34][35], According to the prosecution in the subsequent case, CCTV footage analysed by the police showed three individuals riding a motorcycle to 7-Eleven, where they bought beer and cigarettes, before going towards Sairee Beach. Thai police have been criticised for leading a chaotic investigation into the deaths of David Miller and Hannah Witheridge in which the line of inquiry has changed several times. The defendants have repeatedly stated their innocence over the murders, with the defence alleging they were framed. [44] In December 2014, the suspects were each indicted on five charges: premeditated murder, killing to conceal a criminal offence, rape, illegal entry into Thailand, and staying in the country without permission. [55], The defence claimed that the investigation was flawed due to mishandling of forensic evidence, lack of legal representation during interrogations, use of threats and intimidation to secure a confession, and intimidation of witnesses. The comments below have been moderated in advance. Can dementia be spotted in CHILDHOOD? It is claimed Miss Witheridge encountered her attackers, had a conversation with them and may have even shared a cigarette with them before being dragged to her death. Thailand beach murders: Hannah Witheridge's family beg for removal of graphic crime scene images circulating online Photos showing the battered bodies of Hannah, 23, and David Miller, 24, emerged . Most topics are about Bangkok and Pattaya because of their larger populations of expatriates and tourists in those cities, but this is for all things Thai. I have never had the courage to look. 2040 / 2557", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koh_Tao_murders&oldid=1135707447, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 26 January 2023, at 10:00. 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